Six Sigma Quality Resources for Achieving Six Sigma Results
Click To Learn More About PremiumLinks
 Main Site > Main Channel > Discussion Forum Search:
 
 for    
Publications
Marketplace
| iSixSigma
Stuff
| iSixSigma
Blogosphere
| Events
Calendar
| The
Dictionary
| Discussion
Forum
| Find
a Job
| Post
a Job
| Industry
News
| Newsletter
Signup
| Sigma
Calculator
| Online
Surveys
Nominations for iSixSigma Awards! close November 30 – nominate your project/program today!
iSixSigma Magazine Signup
 iSixSigma Live!  
  Live! Home
  2010 Summit & Awards
  2010 Energy Forum
 Free Newsletters!  
  Sign Up Now!
  Manage Subscriptions
  New To Six Sigma?
  Six Sigma Q&A
  Cert. Practice Test
  Problem Solving Wizard
  ISSSP Info
ISSSP Is The Official Six Sigma Society of iSixSigma
 Channels 
  Europe
  Financial Services
  Healthcare
  Military
  Software / IT
 Quality Directory 
  Best Practices
  Certifications/Awards
  Consultants
  Culture Evolution
  Methodologies
  News & Events
  Organizations
  Product/Service Guides
  Statistics & Analysis
  Tools & Templates
  Voice of the Customer
  Free Whitepapers
 Related Topics 
  Innovation
  Outsourcing/Offshoring
  Business Process Mgt
 Quick Access 
  Help
  Search
  Advertise Here
  Article Archives
  Newsletter Archives
 User Feedback 
  Please suggest site
  improvements.
 
  [ larger form ]

Can Any Body Help Me for FMEA?

Bookmark This Page Bookmark This Page
Email This Page Email This Page
Format for Printing Format for Printing
Attach Six Sigma Document Attach Document
Show Entire Thread Show Entire Thread
Search The Forum
  • By Individual Post
  • By Thread
  • Past 1 Day of Posts
  • Past 2 Days of Posts
  • Past Week of Posts
  • By Keyword or Phrase
  • Posted by: Michael Schlueter
    Posted on: Monday, 14th July 2003, 3:52 AM.



    Hello Zubair,

    FMEA is intended to document:

    • a Failure
    • its Mode
    • its Effect
    • by Analysis

    in a cause-effect manner. You can find examples here:

    FMEA's basic idea is to spot risks and to initiate dedicated efforts to control or minimize risks. Knowing your risks can make your project plan more realistic. FMEA seems to work best, when a team documents its known knowledge about known cause- and effect-relationships.

    I suggest to work out the timely sequence of failure events first, before entering results into a FMEA sheet. You can use, e.g. Ishikawa or flow diagrams to do this. Or just use cards or post-it notes to document and organise items into a logical sequence of events. Start with key functions your process/product has to perform (functions). Next identify ways to deteriorate those key functions (modes and causes).

    Only few people seem to be able to anticipate unknown risks and unkown failure mechanisms. I suggest using AFD (Anticipatory Failure Determination) when you need to analyse subtle failure mechanisms or have to predict future failures from your process/product.

    You need to stay very disciplined in cause- and effect-thinking to create strong FMEA-results. Unfortunately many available FMEA-sheets seem to puzzle its users.

    Good example (1st link from above, DC motor example) states:

    • component investigated is the Position Controller
    • its function is to "receive a demand position"
    • one failure mode is "loosing cable connection"
    • which is caused by "wear and tear"
    • this results in "motor fails to move"

    This sounds very logical, even if we restate it in its correct timely order of events:

    cable wears and tears => cable connection is lost => motor fails to move => function to receive a demand position is deteriorated.

    (cause col.5) => (mode col.4) => (effect col.6) => (function lost col.3)

    Please note the that many FMEA worksheets do not encourage timely order of events, as columns are ordered in a different way.

     

    Less good example (2nd link from above) states on page 19:

    • component investigated is a 16-inch color monitor
    • its function is not stated explicitely, but rather indicated by the keyword "monitor" (a monitor can serve dozens of functions)
    • one failure mode is "loss of video"
    • which causes that "the operator is unable to display input"
    • which is caused by a "CRT component failure"

    In timely order of events:

    a CRT component failes => video is lost => function to "display operators input" is deteriorated ...

    (cause col.7) => (mode col.2) => (effect col.3)  =>  ???

    In contrast to aboves example we don't get much specific information from this FMEA, do we? What I find quite amusing (sorry) is the suggestion it makes:

    • detect a "loss of video" (Potential Failure Mode)
    • by checking for "loss of video" (Current Control)

    It is not wrong; but can't we do better?

     

    Finally, once you have good input to enter into your FMEA sheet identifying the ranks for severity, occurance probability  etc. should be easy to do.

    Best regards, Michael Schlueter


          Previous PostNext Post
     Message Thread: Locate Post In Thread
      Can Any Body Help Me for FMEA? by Zubair on Monday, 14th July 2003
           Re: Can Any Body Help Me for FMEA? by Michael Schlueter on Monday, 14th July 2003
                "Thanks a Lot" by Zubair on Monday, 14th July 2003
                     Re: Thanks a Lot by Oscar on Saturday, 2nd August 2003
                Re: Can Any Body Help Me for FMEA? by radhakrishnan on Tuesday, 6th January 2004
                     Re: Can Any Body Help Me for FMEA? by Surrin on Tuesday, 6th January 2004
                          Re: Can Any Body Help Me for FMEA? by radhakrishnan on Wednesday, 7th January 2004
                               Product Development, Quality Assurance, Risk Managem by Ganesh on Friday, 3rd October 2008
                Can You Plz Tell Me the FMEA Sheet for Vane Pump? by ranjana mehta on Wednesday, 7th April 2004
                     FMEA for Existing Products by Naveen on Wednesday, 7th April 2004
                Re: Can Any Body Help Me for FMEA? by Kmekki on Wednesday, 26th July 2006
                Re: Can Any Body Help Me for FMEA? by George Hovorka on Friday, 6th October 2006
                Re: Can Any Body Help Me for FMEA? by ambo on Wednesday, 15th November 2006
                     Re: Can Any Body Help Me for FMEA? by QualityColorado on Wednesday, 15th November 2006
                     Re: Can Any Body Help Me for FMEA? by Monk on Thursday, 16th November 2006
                Re: Can Any Body Help Me for FMEA? by Sathya on Wednesday, 23rd May 2007
                     Re: Can Any Body Help Me for FMEA? by prince on Wednesday, 23rd May 2007
                          Re: Can Any Body Help Me for FMEA? by sathya on Thursday, 24th May 2007
                               Re: Can Any Body Help Me for FMEA? by prince on Saturday, 26th May 2007
           Re: Can Any Body Help Me for FMEA? by Bijju on Thursday, 13th October 2005
                Sample Equipment FMEA by Ricky Smith on Tuesday, 23rd May 2006
                     Please Send the Sample Equipment FMEA by DR G S V RATNAM on Wednesday, 7th June 2006
                          Sample Equipment FMEA by Ricky Smith on Sunday, 11th June 2006
                               Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by JR Quisiquisi on Wednesday, 9th May 2007
                                    Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by ravi on Friday, 7th September 2007
                                    Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by bhupathy.k on Monday, 23rd June 2008
                                         Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by UPS on Monday, 23rd June 2008
                                         Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Ganesh on Friday, 3rd October 2008
                               Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by JR Quisiquisi on Wednesday, 9th May 2007
                                    Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Vimal on Thursday, 17th May 2007
                                    Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Tommy on Thursday, 24th July 2008
                               Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by romeo on Wednesday, 4th July 2007
                               Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Fari on Saturday, 14th July 2007
                                    Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Chad Taylor on Saturday, 14th July 2007
                                         Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Fari on Tuesday, 17th July 2007
                                         Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Sourabh Joshi on Thursday, 6th September 2007
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by aRATHI on Saturday, 9th September 2006
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by aRATHI on Saturday, 9th September 2006
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Deni on Monday, 25th September 2006
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Deano on Friday, 13th October 2006
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Belforth on Monday, 11th December 2006
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by paddy on Sunday, 24th December 2006
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Eliana Rodriguez on Tuesday, 16th January 2007
                          Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by QualityColorado on Tuesday, 16th January 2007
                          Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Eduardo on Tuesday, 16th October 2007
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by tanate on Monday, 22nd January 2007
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Samir on Monday, 19th February 2007
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Pravin BHaise on Friday, 16th March 2007
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Victor on Wednesday, 7th June 2006
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Dave Smith on Wednesday, 30th May 2007
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Peter Awayan on Sunday, 17th June 2007
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by romeo on Wednesday, 4th July 2007
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by romeo on Wednesday, 4th July 2007
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by johan on Sunday, 19th August 2007
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by James on Friday, 14th September 2007
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by alan sevugan on Saturday, 24th November 2007
                     Equipment FMEA by Tuckq on Tuesday, 27th November 2007
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Daniel Solis on Thursday, 14th February 2008
                          Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Martita on Friday, 22nd February 2008
                          Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Kim on Thursday, 10th April 2008
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by sunil kanti on Monday, 18th February 2008
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Allan on Tuesday, 13th June 2006
                          Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Ricky Smith, CMRP on Wednesday, 14th June 2006
                               Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by T.B on Wednesday, 14th June 2006
                                    Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Ricky Smith, CMRP on Wednesday, 14th June 2006
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by sunil kanti on Monday, 18th February 2008
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by sunil kanti on Monday, 18th February 2008
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by sunil kanti on Monday, 18th February 2008
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by oscar19 on Tuesday, 11th March 2008
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by helme on Tuesday, 18th March 2008
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by dany on Friday, 16th May 2008
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by dany on Friday, 16th May 2008
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by John Mohan on Sunday, 8th June 2008
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Ali on Saturday, 14th June 2008
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Pravin Bhaise on Sunday, 25th June 2006
                          Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Ricky Smith, CMRP on Sunday, 25th June 2006
                               Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by jaafar arshad on Monday, 2nd October 2006
                          Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by VTME2003-Hokies on Monday, 10th July 2006
                          Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by niall on Friday, 8th May 2009
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Herjun on Monday, 30th June 2008
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by nimesh on Tuesday, 12th August 2008
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by jagadish on Wednesday, 27th August 2008
                          FMEA in Human Resources by Shreesh Soni on Monday, 1st September 2008
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Ganesh on Friday, 3rd October 2008
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Vergel Garcia on Thursday, 23rd October 2008
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Pritish on Friday, 5th December 2008
                          Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Les on Friday, 5th December 2008
                               Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Pritish on Friday, 5th December 2008
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Jean Avery on Thursday, 11th December 2008
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Gee on Friday, 12th December 2008
                          Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Stan on Saturday, 13th December 2008
                               Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Joe BB on Saturday, 13th December 2008
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by pageboy on Wednesday, 11th February 2009
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Taft Ding on Friday, 30th June 2006
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by rakesh gami on Monday, 16th February 2009
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Robert Freck on Tuesday, 14th April 2009
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by john w on Wednesday, 6th May 2009
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Shelley on Tuesday, 17th November 2009
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by siva on Tuesday, 18th July 2006
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by siva on Tuesday, 18th July 2006
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by siva on Tuesday, 18th July 2006
                          Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by gomezadams on Wednesday, 19th July 2006
                     Re: Sample Equipment FMEA by Michael on Sunday, 13th August 2006
           Re: Can Any Body Help Me for FMEA? by QualityColorado on Wednesday, 15th November 2006
           Re: Can Any Body Help Me for FMEA? by vivek dwivedi on Sunday, 18th February 2007
                Re: Can Any Body Help Me for FMEA? by Sandor on Monday, 19th February 2007
           Re: Can Any Body Help Me for FMEA? by vinay on Wednesday, 4th July 2007
                Re: Can Any Body Help Me for FMEA? by Omashi Sabachi on Wednesday, 4th July 2007
           Re: Can Any Body Help Me for FMEA? by fake accrington alert on Wednesday, 17th October 2007


  • Return To Discussion Forum
  • Post A New Message
  • Read the Forum Guide to Good Etiquette

    Other Forums:Europe | Financial Services
    Healthcare | Software/IT

     




    "The Bottom Line" Links

    BEST SELLING PRODUCTS (iSixSigma Publications)
    1. Six Sigma Black Belt (DMAIC) Training Slides - 2009 Version!
      The 2009 Six Sigma Black Belt course includes over 40 more slides than the 2008 version. Contents include: 1,220 PowerPo...
    2. Certified Lean Six Sigma Black Belt Assessment Exam
      Interested in assessing your knowledge of Lean Six Sigma? Preparing for certifications? Testing your students and traine...
    3. Certified Lean Six Sigma Green Belt Assessment Exam
      This assessment exam is useful for students interested in assessing their knowledge of Lean Six Sigma on the Green Belt ...
    4. Certified Lean Six Sigma Black Belt E-book
      In 670 pages learn everything within the Lean Six Sigma DMAIC body of knowledge to successfully achieve Black Belt certi...
    5. Kaizen Workshop E-book
      This 150+ page ebook teaches key tools and techniques of Kaizen, as well as real application to enhance learning. Kaizen...
    6. Six Sigma Yellow Belt Training Slides - 2009 Version
      The 2009 Six Sigma Yellow Belt course is comprised of: 503 slidesInstructor notesSlide explanations15 data sets19 suppo...
    7. Design For Six Sigma (DFSS) E-Book or Print
      Need an "encyclopedia" consisting of many of the tools you’ll study? Need a helpful refresher to apply the DFSS process?...
     
  • Six Sigma AdLinks
    AdLinks Information
     
    Home | Discussion Forum | Event Calendar | Job Shop
    Link To iSixSigma | Rate This Page | Report A Problem | Free Content For Your Site | Submit Article For Publishing
     Terms of Service. �2000-2009 iSixSigma. All rights reserved. v3.0lb, 0.1
    About iSixSigmaContact UsPrivacy PolicySite Map